Discussion:
Lines and shapes in OneNote do not move when extra spaces added
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ghg
2005-12-07 22:21:02 UTC
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Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I decided to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle, shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to insert
extra spaces.

Thank you.
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
2005-12-08 00:42:37 UTC
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It is a little tricky in the current version of the product. You
essentially have to CTRL select each of the objects you want to move and
then try to drag them as a group to an empty space.

This is a known issue.
--
Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I decided to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle,
shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to insert
extra spaces.
Thank you.
ghg
2005-12-08 02:08:02 UTC
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Thanks Ben.
But if I do what you suggest then it would get so crazy/mess up if I have 20
pages of notes and i make remark,circles, and arrow all over them at
different day and time.

I guess I cannot ctrl select those objects and group them at its original
spot and insert extra space later without being worry the text and objects
out of alignment.
Correct?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
It is a little tricky in the current version of the product. You
essentially have to CTRL select each of the objects you want to move and
then try to drag them as a group to an empty space.
This is a known issue.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I decided to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle, shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to insert
extra spaces.
Thank you.
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
2005-12-08 19:08:37 UTC
Permalink
Unfortunately. That is a known issue in the current version of the
product -- when you have a lot of ink objects and you try to insert space
above them OneNote doesn't do a great job of preserving the layout below.
--
Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Thanks Ben.
But if I do what you suggest then it would get so crazy/mess up if I have 20
pages of notes and i make remark,circles, and arrow all over them at
different day and time.
I guess I cannot ctrl select those objects and group them at its original
spot and insert extra space later without being worry the text and objects
out of alignment.
Correct?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
It is a little tricky in the current version of the product. You
essentially have to CTRL select each of the objects you want to move and
then try to drag them as a group to an empty space.
This is a known issue.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I
decided
to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle, shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to insert
extra spaces.
Thank you.
gerg
2006-12-01 03:05:02 UTC
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why can't I group? I find this better than having to lasso every time.
journal allows you to do this, as well as word and powerpoint.

I really miss it.
There is a lasso in OneNote 2007. So you can get together whatever you
want and easily move it.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever be a way
to "group" objects?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Unfortunately. That is a known issue in the current version of the
product -- when you have a lot of ink objects and you try to insert space
above them OneNote doesn't do a great job of preserving the layout below.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Thanks Ben.
But if I do what you suggest then it would get so crazy/mess up if I have 20
pages of notes and i make remark,circles, and arrow all over them at
different day and time.
I guess I cannot ctrl select those objects and group them at its original
spot and insert extra space later without being worry the text and objects
out of alignment.
Correct?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
It is a little tricky in the current version of the product. You
essentially have to CTRL select each of the objects you want to move and
then try to drag them as a group to an empty space.
This is a known issue.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I
decided
to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle,
shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to insert
extra spaces.
Thank you.
Patrick Schmid [MVP]
2006-12-01 03:27:33 UTC
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Because OneNote doesn't have this feature.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
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http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
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Post by gerg
why can't I group? I find this better than having to lasso every time.
journal allows you to do this, as well as word and powerpoint.
I really miss it.
There is a lasso in OneNote 2007. So you can get together whatever you
want and easily move it.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed
Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever be a way
to "group" objects?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Unfortunately. That is a known issue in the current version of the
product -- when you have a lot of ink objects and you try to insert space
above them OneNote doesn't do a great job of preserving the layout below.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Thanks Ben.
But if I do what you suggest then it would get so crazy/mess up if I have
20
pages of notes and i make remark,circles, and arrow all over them at
different day and time.
I guess I cannot ctrl select those objects and group them at its original
spot and insert extra space later without being worry the text and objects
out of alignment.
Correct?
Post by Ben M. Schorr - MVP
It is a little tricky in the current version of the product. You
essentially have to CTRL select each of the objects you want to move and
then try to drag them as a group to an empty space.
This is a known issue.
--
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, OneNote-MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm
**I apologize but I am unable to respond to direct requests for
assistance.
Please post questions and replies here in the newsgroup. Mahalo!
Post by ghg
Why is the drawing and lines do not move together with text if I
decided
to
insert extra space in between?
In other words, how to make the lines and drawing (ie. circle,
shapes..etc)
move together or align automatically with the text when you try to
insert
extra spaces.
Thank you.
Rainald Taesler
2006-12-01 02:43:14 UTC
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Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever
be a way to "group" objects?
It can *temporarily* done with the lasso tool.
But unfortuantely one can not make the grouping persistent :-( :-(

One of the really big holes in ON.

Rainald
ioannis
2009-12-16 17:08:02 UTC
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Post by Rainald Taesler
Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever
be a way to "group" objects?
It can *temporarily* done with the lasso tool.
But unfortuantely one can not make the grouping persistent :-( :-(
One of the really big holes in ON.
Rainald
ioannis
2009-12-16 17:15:02 UTC
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What stands out with ON is that IT IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT than the rest of
the Office2007 tools. I find this inconsistency a major issue with the
product. Hopefully, future versions we'll unify these annoying differences.
The inability to GROUP is just one of many differences. Another is the fact
that shapes can't 'hold text' as in many of the other tools such as
PowerPoint . A shape can't be easily annotated. What about Ctrl-click to
multi-select; does not work either!
Post by Rainald Taesler
Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever
be a way to "group" objects?
It can *temporarily* done with the lasso tool.
But unfortuantely one can not make the grouping persistent :-( :-(
One of the really big holes in ON.
Rainald
Rigoberto Meza
2023-01-17 19:34:59 UTC
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Post by ioannis
What stands out with ON is that IT IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT than the rest of
the Office2007 tools. I find this inconsistency a major issue with the
product. Hopefully, future versions we'll unify these annoying differences.
The inability to GROUP is just one of many differences. Another is the fact
that shapes can't 'hold text' as in many of the other tools such as
PowerPoint . A shape can't be easily annotated. What about Ctrl-click to
multi-select; does not work either!
Post by Rainald Taesler
Office 2007 does not have anything usefull either. Will there ever
be a way to "group" objects?
It can *temporarily* done with the lasso tool.
But unfortuantely one can not make the grouping persistent :-( :-(
One of the really big holes in ON.
Rainald
=14 years later from the last post=
We are in 2023 and this issue is still not resolved
Draws won't move along with text when inserting new lines
Colin Gunning
2023-03-01 01:23:12 UTC
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Post by Rigoberto Meza
We are in 2023 and this issue is still not resolved
Draws won't move along with text when inserting new lines
At least I learned that Lasso can help BUT I agree this is really silly that this has not been included
Berk Demir
2023-10-09 12:46:44 UTC
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The interesting thing is the solution that is proposed online is still same after 18 years. Lasso... Awful.
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